The 463-Message Saga
Date: September 27-30, 2023 Duration: 4 days Messages: 463 (just ChatGPT — Claude got another 25) Issue: Everything about Docker and Traefik Result: Modern containerized infrastructure
The Setup
September 2023. I’d been running services the old-fashioned way — installed directly on hosts, manual port management, praying nothing conflicted. It worked. Mostly.
Then I discovered Traefik. Automatic service discovery. SSL termination. Clean URLs instead of http://192.168.1.50:8443. The dream.
How hard could it be?
Day 1: Optimism (114 messages)
Morning: Read the docs. Felt confident.
Afternoon: First docker-compose up. Container started. Dashboard appeared. “This is easy,” I thought.
Evening: Nothing routed correctly. Services unreachable. Traefik labels ignored.
Night: Stack Overflow. Reddit. More ChatGPT. Nothing worked.
Day 1 emotional arc: Confident → Confused → Frustrated → “I’ll figure it out tomorrow”
Day 2: Network Hell (83 messages + Claude)
The containers were running. Traefik was running. Nothing could talk to each other.
docker network ls
# traefik-public exists
docker network inspect traefik-public
# All containers attached
curl http://service.domain.local
# Connection refused
I tried ChatGPT. I tried Claude. I tried both simultaneously, comparing answers.
The images wouldn’t even pull reliably:
Error response from daemon: Get https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/:
net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection
Network instability. DNS issues. Docker Hub throttling. All at once.
Day 2 emotional arc: Determined → Exhausted → “Maybe containers aren’t for me”
Day 3: The 238-Message Day
Two hundred and thirty-eight messages. In one day.
Looking back, I understand why. I was learning:
- Docker networking models (bridge, host, overlay)
- Traefik dynamic configuration
- Container DNS resolution
- Inter-container communication
- Cloudflare API integration
- Cronjob automation
All at once. Every answer revealed three new questions.
10:00 AM: "How do I expose a container port?"
10:15 AM: "Why can't containers see each other?"
10:30 AM: "What's the difference between expose and ports?"
10:45 AM: "Why does DNS work sometimes and not others?"
11:00 AM: "How do Traefik labels work?"
11:15 AM: "Why are my labels being ignored?"
...
11:00 PM: "Is any of this actually working?"
The ruTorrent migration alone took 50 messages. Cloudflare DDNS was another 40.
Day 3 emotional arc: Information overload → Gradual understanding → “Wait, I think I see it now”
Day 4: The Breakthrough (225 messages + Claude)
Still broken. But I was close. I could feel it.
The final obstacles:
Obstacle 1: “Network already exists”
Error: network traefik-public already exists
Docker Compose kept trying to create a network that already existed.
# The fix - tell Compose the network is external
networks:
traefik-public:
external: true
Obstacle 2: Firewall
pfSense was blocking Docker traffic. The containers were up, the routing was configured, but packets were dying at the firewall.
Obstacle 3: Service Ports
Traefik needs to know which port inside the container to route to. I’d been specifying the wrong one for three days.
labels:
- "traefik.enable=true"
- "traefik.http.routers.app.rule=Host(`app.domain.com`)"
- "traefik.http.services.app.loadbalancer.server.port=8080" # THIS ONE
The Moment
Day 4. Approximately 11 PM. Message 460-something.
Everything aligned:
- Docker network external: ✓
- Traefik labels correct: ✓
- Firewall rules added: ✓
- DNS resolving: ✓
- Cloudflare DDNS updating: ✓
I typed the curl command, fully expecting another failure:
curl http://rutorrent.domain.com
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: nginx
...
I stared at the terminal.
200 OK.
It worked.
I may have yelled. My daughter definitely thought I’d lost it. “Did your computer do something?”
“It finally worked,” I said.
“Okay,” she said, and went back to Roblox. Fair enough.
What I Built
Before:
Services installed directly on hosts:
- Service1 on Host1:8080
- Service2 on Host2:3000
- Service3 on Host3:9000
Access: http://host-ip:port
After:
All services in containers:
- service1.domain.com → Traefik → container1
- service2.domain.com → Traefik → container2
- service3.domain.com → Traefik → container3
Access: https://service.domain.com (auto-SSL)
What I Learned
Technical
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Docker networks are weird. Bridge, host, overlay — they all behave differently, and none of them work the way you expect the first time.
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Traefik labels are picky. One typo and your service is invisible. The enable flag is easy to forget.
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Firewalls don’t know about containers. Docker creates its own network subnets. Your firewall needs explicit rules for them.
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UEFI variables don’t transfer. This became relevant later, but the lesson started here: VMs carry invisible state.
Process
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463 messages is a lot. But also: 463 messages means I didn’t give up. Sometimes persistence is the skill.
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Use multiple AI sources. ChatGPT for rapid iteration, Claude for deep explanations. They have different strengths.
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Break time helps. Four days meant four nights of sleep. Fresh perspectives matter.
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Document everything. This journal exists because I learned to write things down.
The Architecture
Internet
│
▼
pfSense (Firewall)
│
▼
┌─────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Docker Host │
│ │
│ ┌─────────────────────────────────┐ │
│ │ Traefik (Reverse Proxy) │ │
│ │ - Port 80 (HTTP) │ │
│ │ - Port 443 (HTTPS) │ │
│ │ - Auto service discovery │ │
│ │ - SSL/TLS termination │ │
│ └──────────────┬──────────────────┘ │
│ │ │
│ ┌────────────┼────────────┐ │
│ ▼ ▼ ▼ │
│ ┌────┐ ┌────┐ ┌────┐ │
│ │App1│ │App2│ │App3│ │
│ └────┘ └────┘ └────┘ │
│ │
│ Network: traefik-public │
└───────────────────────────────────────┘
│
▼
Cloudflare (DDNS)
Impact
This wasn’t just about Docker. This was the moment my infrastructure went from “thing I manage” to “thing I build.”
Before: Traditional sysadmin. Install software, configure services, hope nothing breaks.
After: Container-first thinking. Everything isolated, portable, reproducible.
The 463 messages weren’t wasted. They were tuition.
Files Created
| File | Purpose |
|---|---|
docker-compose.yml (Traefik) | Reverse proxy configuration |
docker-compose.yml (services) | Per-service containers |
/etc/docker/daemon.json | Docker DNS configuration |
| Cloudflare DDNS script | Automatic IP updates |
| Cronjob entry | DDNS automation |
What Came Next
This foundation enabled everything that followed:
- More containerized services
- Kubernetes exploration (K3s, 16 months later)
- The build swarm (62 cores, distributed compilation)
- This very blog
The 463-message saga was just the beginning.
Sometimes the conversations with the most messages represent the most important learning experiences.